I bought these from a guy off sportouring.net, and they're a little too loud for my sensitive ears. They look almost new except for a few stone chips on the black tips, I was going to touch them up but after I put them on the bike I thought they looked fine. They pipes are the oval vale style with black tips, plenty of pics on the two brothers site. I can email pics as well. 300.00 plus shipping and they're yours. I would also deliver within a reasonable distance of south central pa.